Have I been scammed by a Ukrainian woman?

Dear Krystyna,

About 8 weeks ago, I started to date online with a Ukrainian single mother who happens to be 30 years of age with a 3 year old daughter. I had met her on a free dating website after she had viewed my profile a couple of times and I had emailed her to thank her for her interest in the profile.

She had explained very early on that she had been on the wrong end of a very messy divorce.  Now she lives in a hostel with her daughter. I did not ask her any questions with regards to the circumstances as I believe this would be a painful memory H for her.

 So far I have been  quite happy about how our relationship has gone , but so far she has been reluctant to give me the address if the hostel , when I have offered to send her, or her daughter any presents ,saying that  this would not be possible in Bobrynets. I have sent her money even though she technically never asked for any money but sounded like she needed urgent help. The amounts have not been a great amount and she had always thanked me “for my tenderness and care”.

However she does claim that she cannot afford a mobile phone and therefore has no number. She did call me once briefly from a pay phone and said that she hopes to be in the UK with her daughter one day.

 When I offered to visit, she told me that there are no hotels in Bobrynets and that her hostel would not be appropriate. She had given me quotes on prices for preparing an international passport and cost for her visa and tickets but not sure demand and says she would be happy for me to sponsor her. 

I have checked her name for scams and apparently she sent the same introductory 2 letters to another man in smith country. Now this might have been because she had been just shopping around to find a suitable partner before settling for me, or she might be doing this on a regular basis.

My question is, do I continue with this relationship, as she had suggested that the price quote which is for her passport was  a $150 cheaper than what she quoted me.

Chand

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I am afraid that you became a victim of Ukrainian dating scam. There are three simple reasons why I guess so.

Reason #1: […]she has been reluctant to give me the address if the hostel, when I have offered to send her, or her daughter any presents, saying that this would not be possible in Bobrynets […] – in my opinion, her statement about that sending any presents to Bobrynetz is not possible is not true because Bobrynets is not the end of the world. It is a small town in Kirovohrad Oblast (province) of Ukraine with the population of 12,300. You find post services there and that means it is really possible to get presents from abroad.

Reason #2: […] however she does claim that she cannot afford a mobile phone and therefore has no number […] – (almost) everybody in Ukraine has a mobile phone and uses computer (skype, icq, msn messenger). It is possible to communicate through telephone or Internet. Even my aunt who earns only $200 per month in Kiev has a mobile phone.

Reason #3:  […] When I offered to visit, she told me that there are no hotels in Bobrynets and that her hostel would not be appropriate […] – This statement is not true, as well. Firstly, I have found information about Bobrynetz on the Internet, namely:

Bobrynets is a town in the Kirovograd region (Ukraine). The town was founded in the XVII century. Located 54 miles south of Kirovograd, on the river Bobrinka. Highway runs through the city of Kirovohrad – Nikolaev. There is a bus station. There is a transit bus communication with the cities of Nikolaev, Kherson, Krivoy Rog, Kirovograd, Kiev, Kremenchug, and others. Bobrinetz population is 12.5 thousand people. In Bobrinetz there are 5 schools, 2 kindergartens. There is a hotel, a public health center, a central district hospital, and four pharmacies.

Bobrynets

Bobrynets

(source: http://www.stejka.com/rus/kirovogradskaja/bobrinec/ in Russian)

Secondly, Bobrynetz is only 54 km from Kirovohrad. Kirovohrad is a big city and there are a lot of hotels where you can stay during your trip.

My advice is that you stop immediately the contact with this woman.
And do not send any money to the woman you never see before!!!

Learn more how to protect yourself from Ukrainian dating scam here:

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  4. Four Types of Ukrainian & Russian Dating Scammers
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krystyna

krystyna

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Love,

Krystyna

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5 Responses

  1. hilto says:

    Krystyna,

    Happy Velitken 🙂

    Well, I just read this about Heidi Clum and Seal finally ending there divorce in Los Angeles, California.

    http://news.yahoo.com/heidi-klum-files-divorce-seal-la-231910753.html

    They only been married for 6 years and have 3 kids together. It’s a darn shame that they got a divorce because it only goes to prove that statistics that I gave a while ago, on this forum, that over 50% of all divorces occur within the first 5 years of marriage and 95% of all divorces, in America, occur within the first 12 years to 20 years of marriage.

    Even in there case, even putting on massive holloween parties every year, renewing there wedding vows annually, and speaking about the great amount of love for each other in public, still didn’t do any good when it came to them getting a divorce..

    The lesson? It seems that there’s more to a marriage than having kids, renewing your wedding vows annually, and having annual holloween parties 🙁

    Mahalo from hawaii,

    hilton

  2. Alex says:

    Hello Krystyna,

    Thanks for you reply.

    Lucky or not, I know that she is a scammer. I ordered flowers to her on Mar 8 but the agency could not deliver to her because she did not answer the phone. And she didn’t bother to tell me for having received or not received the flowers.

    There are red flags but I have to say that it is hard to believe someone is a scammer (because she is too good about that) and I’ll feel guilty if I do not trust a good girl. She almost answered all my questions in my e-mails and she gave me her phone number and address. (I wonder she would simply say that the parcel was stolen if I mailed her anything)

    She said that it cost USD305 to arrange her passport in her village. I suggested to meet her in Kiev to help her to arrange for her passport in a legal channel but she rejected me. This make me confusing because if she doesn’t bother to go to Kiev, how is she going to travel to my country? And I ask myself, how am I going to marry a girl who just want to pay to solve problem but does not want to do thing with me together?

    Regards,
    Alex

  3. Alex says:

    Hello Krystyna,

    My previous submission seems failed and so I have to type again…

    Thanks for you reply. Lucky or not, I know that she is a scammer. I ordered flowers to her on Mar 8 but the agency could not deliver the flowers because she did not answer the phone. She did not even bother to tell me for the delivery or non-delivery of the flowers.

    There are red flags, but sometimes it is hard to believe someone is a scammer (because she is acting too good?) and I will feel guilty if I do not trust a good girl. She answered all my questions and gave me her mobile phone number and address. (But I wonder she would say that the parcel was stolen if I mailed her one)

    She told me that it cost USD305 to arrange her passport in her village. I suggested to meet her in Kiev to help her to arrange her passport in a legal channel together but she rejected me. I asked myself, if she didn’t bother to travel Kiev, how was she going to travel to my country? How am I going to marry someone who just want to pay to solve problem, but not to work out a solution with me together?

    Regards,
    Eric

    • Krystyna Krystyna says:

      Hi Eric,

      Unfortunately, the reality is that the scammers work professionally and indeed act too good. Thus, sometimes it’s really difficult to find out that the girl is a fake (and all your communication, feelings, interest and stories are just a bubble).

      This girl is a proffessional pro-dater and knows how to convince the man and make him believe that she is a genuine and sincere lady looking for a dream partner abroad. I know how it sucks when you find out the girl you really like is a scammer.

      But believe me, Eric, it’s better now to send her to hell than later after you’ve sent her the money in hopes that she would come to your country.

      FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

      The cost of passport arrangement service in Ukraine (Kiev):

      1) Non-urgent passport arrangement (up to 21 working days): 770 grivna (~ $77)

      2) Express passport arrangement (up to 10 working days): 1350 grivna (~ $135)

      3) Super Express passport arrangement (up to 3-5 working days): 1700 grivna (~ $170)

      4) Extra Super Express passport arrangement (2 working days): 2200 grivna (~ $220)

      5) 24-hour passport arrangement: 2800 grivna (~ $280)

      As you see, the cost of passport arrangement service in Ukraine does not exceed $280. If the lady asks you for $350 to arrange a passport and does not want to come to Kiev or another city to meet you, my advice is to “send her to hell“.

      Sorry for these hard words but there is no alternative. And do not feel guilty! This girl is a fake, scammer and pro-dater. Look for a real woman from Ukraine!

      Regards,

      Krystyna

      • Eric says:

        Hi Krystyna,

        She told me that her mother died when she was young and her relationship with his father was bad. She said that his grandfather was sick and she needed to look after him. I knew it could be lies at the very beginning but I have no proof and gradually I believe her.

        For the passport, I thought that it was possible for the local agent to overcharge her. Again I could not prove her anything wrong. She was quite clever. She said that she was going to live in my country and i would not live in her country and she had to come to me first.

        If she did receive my flowers, I would have believed her, but she might still be a liar.

        Regards,
        Eric

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